prasadn
03-26 06:45 PM
Didnt USCIS issue a Memo or something stating only one h1B filing per person?
I believe this time around USCIS is planning to pick the lottery based on passport number. So, even if you have multiple applications from different companies, you will have to choose one among them.
I believe this time around USCIS is planning to pick the lottery based on passport number. So, even if you have multiple applications from different companies, you will have to choose one among them.
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PlainSpeak
04-16 03:26 PM
Plainspeak...no one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
easygoer
02-25 08:38 AM
This is a very good idea. Someone from core team should chalk out the implementation plan. This is a win win situation for all. We are ready to participate whatever way core team plan it.
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chanduv23
11-11 04:40 PM
Is 485 the sole purpose of our life now ? Personally I don't give a damn about the GC if I have to see my family suffer and I don't think any crime can be worse than seeing an adult abusing an infant who can't protect himself and not doing something about it.
Do you want to let a illegal nanny dictate your situation? Your unfortunate situation because you hired a illegal nanny which resulted in your child get beaten up further mess you?
Come on man - this is called knee jerk reaction - I can understand the anger because no one will tolerate beating children.
If something has to be done from now on in this IV community - write blogs about hiring nannies, and also warn people about what is happening on sulekha and ads on grocery stores etc... Ask people to be wary of all this. Such awareness will reduce these kind of incidents.
For our friend, it is his choice
Do you want to let a illegal nanny dictate your situation? Your unfortunate situation because you hired a illegal nanny which resulted in your child get beaten up further mess you?
Come on man - this is called knee jerk reaction - I can understand the anger because no one will tolerate beating children.
If something has to be done from now on in this IV community - write blogs about hiring nannies, and also warn people about what is happening on sulekha and ads on grocery stores etc... Ask people to be wary of all this. Such awareness will reduce these kind of incidents.
For our friend, it is his choice
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ganesha
08-12 05:03 PM
My 485 was filed at NSC and the ND is 03 Oct 2007. It was subsequently moved to TSC in Nov 2008.
So which date is it going to be: PD, ND, RD or Move date (MD) ????
As I read the thread above on the perennial point of contention PD or RD or ND.
Since I was contacting my local congressman and Senators...I got this feedback that my case is pre-adjudicated but waiting to have a visa number available....but I don't know who to trust...I am just not very hopeful and if 485 ND is the date they go by I have no chance and will miss this opportunity too.
SoP
So which date is it going to be: PD, ND, RD or Move date (MD) ????
As I read the thread above on the perennial point of contention PD or RD or ND.
Since I was contacting my local congressman and Senators...I got this feedback that my case is pre-adjudicated but waiting to have a visa number available....but I don't know who to trust...I am just not very hopeful and if 485 ND is the date they go by I have no chance and will miss this opportunity too.
SoP
wa_Saiprasad
07-20 11:10 AM
We members of IV focus only for legal immigrants who haven't and will not break the law.
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EndlessWait
07-20 11:23 AM
We members of IV focus only for legal immigrants who haven't and will not break the law.
out of status is not illegal if you reenter..
out of status is not illegal if you reenter..
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11-19 01:45 PM
I hope you will use your new-found power wisely.. as in bump the right threads :)
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ps3539
05-11 03:30 PM
i agree that substituted labors move back in the queue.
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aeroterp
06-05 12:39 PM
My application with my current employer under Advanced degree cap reached Vermont on April 19th, but didn't make the cap!!!! I do have another application through another company that reached under the cap but is still pending. So, I think I will reapply with that receipt notice.
Just wanted to let you all know.
Just wanted to let you all know.
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reedandbamboo
09-13 01:29 AM
I incorporated the points you made and the revisions are in fuchsia. Also make sure to change the designation as you make your way down the list of recipients (listed on page 6 of this thread):
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal – while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal – while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
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godspeed
08-21 06:09 PM
i still think you are lying!
take it easy bro...
why would anyone think about causing so much stress to hundreds of people? what would they get from that.
He has taken time and effort to share this info, atleast lets acknowledge that.
Whether its true or not is a different story.
take it easy bro...
why would anyone think about causing so much stress to hundreds of people? what would they get from that.
He has taken time and effort to share this info, atleast lets acknowledge that.
Whether its true or not is a different story.
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kumarc123
07-10 01:43 PM
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
To answer your query,
Let me start by repeating myself, it is not about EB2 or EB3. We all are EB communities. We didn't design the system, neither we believe ourselves to be superior to EB3. The point is all of us need to work together and help ourselves to change the system. IF EB2 gets some advantage then ultimately it will help EB3 as well.
It is a simple logic, when the cake gets cut it rolls down to all the people in line. If there is no cake, whats the point of arguing who is ahead in line?
Please everyone, stop complaining about who is ahead, work together. Instead of complaining do some more constructive, involve more people. lets gather necessary means to file this lawsuit.
Thanks
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
To answer your query,
Let me start by repeating myself, it is not about EB2 or EB3. We all are EB communities. We didn't design the system, neither we believe ourselves to be superior to EB3. The point is all of us need to work together and help ourselves to change the system. IF EB2 gets some advantage then ultimately it will help EB3 as well.
It is a simple logic, when the cake gets cut it rolls down to all the people in line. If there is no cake, whats the point of arguing who is ahead in line?
Please everyone, stop complaining about who is ahead, work together. Instead of complaining do some more constructive, involve more people. lets gather necessary means to file this lawsuit.
Thanks
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belmontboy
04-14 04:28 PM
Nope it is not good
Why do STEM graduates have to have it the easy way while we have it hard. The least the STEM graduate can do is wait for 2 years for visa
Now you are telling the real reason :)
2 yrs wait?? Its been 4 yrs and yet to file 485
Fortunately you are one among the minorities that oppose this proposal. I am glad that IV has this proposal as part of its agenda
Why do STEM graduates have to have it the easy way while we have it hard. The least the STEM graduate can do is wait for 2 years for visa
Now you are telling the real reason :)
2 yrs wait?? Its been 4 yrs and yet to file 485
Fortunately you are one among the minorities that oppose this proposal. I am glad that IV has this proposal as part of its agenda
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12-18 05:26 PM
almost 100 views and 4 contributions
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c'mon people, we are better that that...right?
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hoolahoous
12-06 10:03 PM
I think it all boils down to this scenerio
you have a seriously injured uninvited person in your front lawn about to die. what are you gonna do ?
Some people would want that 'problem' to go away and some would want to help the person. Our actions make what we are ..
BTW if anyone is interested, child birth generates 9 dols (measure of pain) of pain and at 10 dols a person dies. 9 dols is maximum pain a human being can suffer.
Take your pick.
you have a seriously injured uninvited person in your front lawn about to die. what are you gonna do ?
Some people would want that 'problem' to go away and some would want to help the person. Our actions make what we are ..
BTW if anyone is interested, child birth generates 9 dols (measure of pain) of pain and at 10 dols a person dies. 9 dols is maximum pain a human being can suffer.
Take your pick.
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willwin
07-11 12:23 AM
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
I should clarify few points here:
1. Let EB2 be wonder kids. All I am saying is their GC shouldn't be at the cost of EB3. Have a separate quota which is twice as much as EB3. But, when the left overs are up in the air, EB2 shouldn't grab everything.
2. Not all EB3 are with 3 years Indian degree. Most of them are 4 years and above. Please prove me wrong. There are several Master degree holders in EB3 queue just because of their employer decision (not even job requirements).
4. Most people filed under EB3 way back in 2001/2002 because they didn't antici pate such a mess 5-6 years down the road.
5. Today most applications are EB2? How? does it mean that the '3 years' Indian degree holders are not coming to US anymore? Nope. These days people just ', manage' to file under EB2.
6. Finally, EB2 would understand what we (EB3) are saying if the EB1 queue was retrogressed and EB2 was stuck in 2001.
There is no separate quota while applying for H1B but at the final stage of GC! Ridiculous!!
Bottom line, a VISA that could impact an individual's life so much should not be dragged for 7-8 years. And, thank you for your concern for EB3.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
I should clarify few points here:
1. Let EB2 be wonder kids. All I am saying is their GC shouldn't be at the cost of EB3. Have a separate quota which is twice as much as EB3. But, when the left overs are up in the air, EB2 shouldn't grab everything.
2. Not all EB3 are with 3 years Indian degree. Most of them are 4 years and above. Please prove me wrong. There are several Master degree holders in EB3 queue just because of their employer decision (not even job requirements).
4. Most people filed under EB3 way back in 2001/2002 because they didn't antici pate such a mess 5-6 years down the road.
5. Today most applications are EB2? How? does it mean that the '3 years' Indian degree holders are not coming to US anymore? Nope. These days people just ', manage' to file under EB2.
6. Finally, EB2 would understand what we (EB3) are saying if the EB1 queue was retrogressed and EB2 was stuck in 2001.
There is no separate quota while applying for H1B but at the final stage of GC! Ridiculous!!
Bottom line, a VISA that could impact an individual's life so much should not be dragged for 7-8 years. And, thank you for your concern for EB3.
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kams
06-19 09:02 PM
I am in the same boat as u r............... i have emailed my companies immigration dept and waiting to hear from them............. if u hear something from them, can u please share it here with us............... will really appreciate that.............
I emailed my lawyer too, A**hole is just repeating that he needs Her Legal name in USA. All her Tax filings, Licence, Social security etc have <First Name>, <Last Name> format. Passport doesn't have surname and Visa has First name - FNU and Surname - Firstname last name. Don't know what to do.
I emailed my lawyer too, A**hole is just repeating that he needs Her Legal name in USA. All her Tax filings, Licence, Social security etc have <First Name>, <Last Name> format. Passport doesn't have surname and Visa has First name - FNU and Surname - Firstname last name. Don't know what to do.
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Marphad
12-03 03:23 PM
For us, life revolves around everything immigration. For IOs, its just a job to pay the bills. I wouldnt fault the IO...they are just doing their job & acting according to procedure. How many of us professionals keep track of EVERY SINGLE thing thats related to our industry. So keep that in mind while we criticize USCIS people.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
ragz4u
04-27 02:42 PM
We understand your frustration, but we would need some more info from you. Could you please look at the first post in this thread and send us your info.
We already have about 30 stories sent to us and the truth is we are in much better shape now when we go to meet senators. We can actually point out examples and not speak in general terms which makes them sit up and listen.
We already have about 30 stories sent to us and the truth is we are in much better shape now when we go to meet senators. We can actually point out examples and not speak in general terms which makes them sit up and listen.
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03-09 02:17 PM
Thanks just now i contributed 25$ .... Go IV...
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