vin13
02-26 12:57 PM
Since AILA has also taken interest into a proposal like this Don't you think we should engage them in planning the next strategy.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0225-endelman.shtm
The link you have posted seems to talk about allowing to file for 485 even though the priority date may not be current.
It would be difficult to combine both the proposals. The combination would mean that everyone would enjoy the benefits of being allowed to continue living and working in the country with no annual limit. Which basically means no control of immigrants.
I am not in anyway opposing this. But we need to look at it based on how the decision makers are going to perceive it.
I feel what is being proposed by 'realizeit' is realistic and will not hamper the annual limits. It would be good if someone has contacts with the AILA and can persue the matter as a coalition effort.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0225-endelman.shtm
The link you have posted seems to talk about allowing to file for 485 even though the priority date may not be current.
It would be difficult to combine both the proposals. The combination would mean that everyone would enjoy the benefits of being allowed to continue living and working in the country with no annual limit. Which basically means no control of immigrants.
I am not in anyway opposing this. But we need to look at it based on how the decision makers are going to perceive it.
I feel what is being proposed by 'realizeit' is realistic and will not hamper the annual limits. It would be good if someone has contacts with the AILA and can persue the matter as a coalition effort.
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abhijitp
11-29 05:41 PM
Here is something to read for you:
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
chanduv23
09-07 10:07 PM
Ya, and I have heard the stories that mankind was originated in Africa. So that does not mean I can claim citizenship of Africa. These things are earned and not asked for. Do you have in you to earn this?
Guess u r making a point here, but please stop the abusive language, and do it in a proper way - go back to ur post and edit the bad language
Guess u r making a point here, but please stop the abusive language, and do it in a proper way - go back to ur post and edit the bad language
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chanduy9
07-05 04:05 PM
Just an idea, if someone can spend some time near the office videotaping flower arrivals, we can do a piece on youtube. It can potentially get more media attention if the media does not catch up immediately.
Media will not loose NEWS..please send the flowers and spread it to your friends,media will come automatically when there is a news. we will discuss the plan of action on 9th.
Thanks,
Chandra.
Media will not loose NEWS..please send the flowers and spread it to your friends,media will come automatically when there is a news. we will discuss the plan of action on 9th.
Thanks,
Chandra.
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rajnag21
07-21 12:48 PM
Yes; he was out of status from March 2003. However; he had a valid I-94 card until February 2004. He didn't have a valid I-94 from February 2004 until april 2004.
once;he left and re-entered then the out of status time was finished. Since he didn't overstay his I-94 card by more then 180 days then he is not subject to the 3 year bar.
If his I-94 card expired in March 2003 then he would have had unlawful presence from that date forward and since it was more then one year then he would have been subject to 10 year bar.
UnitedNations,
I know I should be asking my lawyer this but what if i94 has been expired from past 3 monthsi.e., from april 2007 , the person has applied for seventh year extension of h1b visa in feb 2007 but it has not come through yet, and they have already done concurrent filing of 140 and 485 in July.
In this situation what does the person (with h4 dependent in the same situation) do ?
Is this a solution:
Make h1 premium now and get the 797 approval, wait for 485 receipt and then go to Canada for getting h1 visa stamping and new I94 card ?
Please advise. Appreciate any suggestions you can give with your limited time :)
Is there a better solution ?
once;he left and re-entered then the out of status time was finished. Since he didn't overstay his I-94 card by more then 180 days then he is not subject to the 3 year bar.
If his I-94 card expired in March 2003 then he would have had unlawful presence from that date forward and since it was more then one year then he would have been subject to 10 year bar.
UnitedNations,
I know I should be asking my lawyer this but what if i94 has been expired from past 3 monthsi.e., from april 2007 , the person has applied for seventh year extension of h1b visa in feb 2007 but it has not come through yet, and they have already done concurrent filing of 140 and 485 in July.
In this situation what does the person (with h4 dependent in the same situation) do ?
Is this a solution:
Make h1 premium now and get the 797 approval, wait for 485 receipt and then go to Canada for getting h1 visa stamping and new I94 card ?
Please advise. Appreciate any suggestions you can give with your limited time :)
Is there a better solution ?
vin13
02-25 12:58 PM
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Get real. I am not saying this because i have a EAD. Are you saying that no improvement is good enough unless it helps you at this moment.
This change proposal will also help you when you get to this stage. Try to understand, this may be possible without much legislative intervention.
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Get real. I am not saying this because i have a EAD. Are you saying that no improvement is good enough unless it helps you at this moment.
This change proposal will also help you when you get to this stage. Try to understand, this may be possible without much legislative intervention.
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bkr
07-17 09:08 PM
I thank the IV core and all members of Immigration Voice for their continuous great efforts!
We have seen this day because of the reslove of the core team and the strength of our fellow members: the flower campaign and the San Jose rally...
Let there be champaigne and then another campaign :D :p ;)
Thanks for keeping us informed all the time ! Great Job IV !!
Thanks again..
We have seen this day because of the reslove of the core team and the strength of our fellow members: the flower campaign and the San Jose rally...
Let there be champaigne and then another campaign :D :p ;)
Thanks for keeping us informed all the time ! Great Job IV !!
Thanks again..
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anilnag
03-09 03:12 PM
Just went thru my contribution of $50 (doubled 25 because the goal is also doubled now) and got confirmation from IV admin.
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bugsbunny
12-10 01:47 PM
Thanks for posting the link.
1.4.6 A pregnant inmate shall not be restrained while in labor, while giving birth, or during the post-partum recovery period, unless requested by attending medical staff or as specifically directed by the Warden. If restraints are necessary in any manner under such conditions, they should be the least restrictive type possible to remain consistent with sound security practices.
So the warden can still order restraints.
The Sheriff or his officers are not Wardens. A Warden(the head of a prison) can order it if the inmate has demonstrated a history of assaultive behavior or escaped before. Neither applies. And the restraints have to be the least restrictive, not have both legs and hands shackled.
Dude its apparent that you are a moron.
1.4.6 A pregnant inmate shall not be restrained while in labor, while giving birth, or during the post-partum recovery period, unless requested by attending medical staff or as specifically directed by the Warden. If restraints are necessary in any manner under such conditions, they should be the least restrictive type possible to remain consistent with sound security practices.
So the warden can still order restraints.
The Sheriff or his officers are not Wardens. A Warden(the head of a prison) can order it if the inmate has demonstrated a history of assaultive behavior or escaped before. Neither applies. And the restraints have to be the least restrictive, not have both legs and hands shackled.
Dude its apparent that you are a moron.
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DCQC
07-17 07:19 PM
I would like to Thank you for being a savior during this time of distress for thousands of you. Greatly appreciate all your hard work and efforts for teh job well done. Let us continue to work together to get the outstanding immigration issues fixed so we and the future aspirants will have a smooth ride towards permandnt residence.
Good night and good luck!
Good night and good luck!
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Sherman_tribiani
09-07 11:39 PM
In that case make it 10,000 + 11,724 , as we all will be directly or indirectly watching you.
Make that 10,001 ( the 1 is you). You will be present to watch the numbers. Right?
Make that 10,001 ( the 1 is you). You will be present to watch the numbers. Right?
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03-06 10:35 AM
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bigboy007
04-14 11:21 PM
This is the only link that spots to this I have seen this earlier Not sure how reliable this is ? What is the need of any sublabor demand ( per direction of this thread?) if they just retain 140 date ? There would no need in first place for any one to use it .
Here is what i found on USCIS website Posted after 7/2007.. btw this is quoted in Labor sub case.
"The petitioner must establish that its ETA 750 job offer to the beneficiary is a realistic one. A petitioner's filing of an ETA 750 labor certification application establishes a priority date for any immigrant petition later filed based on the approved ETA 750. The priority date is the date that Form ETA 750 Application for Alien Employment Certification was accepted for processing by any office within the employment service system of the Department of Labor. See 8 CFR 5 204.5(d)."
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B6%20-%20Skilled%20Workers,%20Professionals,%20and%20Oth er%20Workers/Decisions_Issued_in_2007/Jul262007_10B6203.pdf
snathan,
Here is something i found on the web for the interpretation of labor sub cases, the original PD stays with original beneficiary, but when the labor certification is used for another beneficiary then USCIS should allocate the new I-140 filing date as PD, not the original LC date.
Following link suggest that labor substitution should not grant PDs.
http://www.greencardapply.com/news/news05/news05_0308.htm
Can IV bring up this issue with USCIS contacts and see whats their interpretation of this rule?
You wont belive but the labor sub was a big mess and thanks god both USCIS and DoL realised this rule being abused and scrap it, but i am pretty sure the sub labor filed in July 2007 fiasco is clogging india EB-3 PD and it will remain at that level for next 2-3 yrs.
Here is what i found on USCIS website Posted after 7/2007.. btw this is quoted in Labor sub case.
"The petitioner must establish that its ETA 750 job offer to the beneficiary is a realistic one. A petitioner's filing of an ETA 750 labor certification application establishes a priority date for any immigrant petition later filed based on the approved ETA 750. The priority date is the date that Form ETA 750 Application for Alien Employment Certification was accepted for processing by any office within the employment service system of the Department of Labor. See 8 CFR 5 204.5(d)."
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B6%20-%20Skilled%20Workers,%20Professionals,%20and%20Oth er%20Workers/Decisions_Issued_in_2007/Jul262007_10B6203.pdf
snathan,
Here is something i found on the web for the interpretation of labor sub cases, the original PD stays with original beneficiary, but when the labor certification is used for another beneficiary then USCIS should allocate the new I-140 filing date as PD, not the original LC date.
Following link suggest that labor substitution should not grant PDs.
http://www.greencardapply.com/news/news05/news05_0308.htm
Can IV bring up this issue with USCIS contacts and see whats their interpretation of this rule?
You wont belive but the labor sub was a big mess and thanks god both USCIS and DoL realised this rule being abused and scrap it, but i am pretty sure the sub labor filed in July 2007 fiasco is clogging india EB-3 PD and it will remain at that level for next 2-3 yrs.
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delhirocks
07-03 04:54 PM
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asharda
07-06 03:36 PM
Deliver on 7/10/2007 to:
Mr Emilio Gonzalez
US Citizen and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20529
United States
202-307-1565
Occasion:
Sympathy
Message:
Dear Mr. Gonzalez, Thank you for giving us hope on June 12 and taking it away on July 2(I-485 reversal). I Pray you never have to go through this pain, sorrow and torture
God Bless America
Mr Emilio Gonzalez
US Citizen and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20529
United States
202-307-1565
Occasion:
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Dear Mr. Gonzalez, Thank you for giving us hope on June 12 and taking it away on July 2(I-485 reversal). I Pray you never have to go through this pain, sorrow and torture
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abimanyu
04-21 09:20 PM
Here is another story. My spouse has been working for the same firm for 7 years now. After finishing her Cost Accountancy in India, she received MS in Accounting and MBA in systems management from a top B-School in the US. Even then, her case was filed under EB-3, after a two-year wait because her company does not immediately process GC for newcomers. Her case went to the Dallas BEC for LC clearance in 2003. After that we haven�t heard a peep from the Dallas BEC. Her lawyers, one of the top law firms in the county, are not helpful at all. They wouldn�t tell us our case number so that we can check the status ourselves or tell us what they are doing to pursue the case. Apparently, the company has been burnt by employees who have left the day after getting their GC. Hence, the Law firm�s motto is mum and the HR department in the company is not doing very much to assist. Besides assuming that miraculously the LC is approved, the EB-3 for India is so badly retrogressed�well, we feel hopeless. Moreover her company has a bond agreement, if anyone leaves before completing 2 years of full-time service after receiving the GC they have to pay a fine of 10 grand. Her job involves extensive travel, which is really putting a strain on our family. However, we are in no position to change jobs, even within the same firm. I can apply, but then, it is another 6 grand for processing and I will be way back on the line, and the standards for EB-1 is so exacting and the paperwork required is so daunting that it will take months to get all the paperwork and letters together. And, my school is not very enthusiastic about sponsoring people under EB-2. Anyway, what�s the point of filing under EB-2 now?
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I_Luv_GC
07-17 07:29 PM
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angelfire76
02-25 06:56 PM
The implications here are
1. USCIS cannot review the 485 application any time after it's been adjudicated and issue the physical card as soon as a visa number becomes available. In the light of fraud being rampant in the immigration system and given that the validity of an application is a sample at that time and economic circumstance, it's not easy to impose such a restriction on the adjudicators
2. Green cards are technically for a future job, whose description has been provided in the labor petition. In one way the RFEs issued during 485 stage is to ensure that this definition is not violated (ideally i.e.)
3. It will be perceived as a "whine". Given the freedom that EAD and AP provides to the recepient compared to the work visa, I don't know how sympathetic lawmakers will be to your cause.
1. USCIS cannot review the 485 application any time after it's been adjudicated and issue the physical card as soon as a visa number becomes available. In the light of fraud being rampant in the immigration system and given that the validity of an application is a sample at that time and economic circumstance, it's not easy to impose such a restriction on the adjudicators
2. Green cards are technically for a future job, whose description has been provided in the labor petition. In one way the RFEs issued during 485 stage is to ensure that this definition is not violated (ideally i.e.)
3. It will be perceived as a "whine". Given the freedom that EAD and AP provides to the recepient compared to the work visa, I don't know how sympathetic lawmakers will be to your cause.
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FraudGultee
04-17 09:07 AM
not a bad idea... but mind you they will be more for undocumented workers
msp1976
02-04 09:50 PM
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
immigrationmatters30
07-10 11:52 PM
LCs from 2005 to 2007 from DOL DB(all Levels)
2005 INDIA 4723
2006 INDIA 27256
2007 INDIA 16242
All the data is avaliable on DOL website.
2005 INDIA 4723
2006 INDIA 27256
2007 INDIA 16242
All the data is avaliable on DOL website.
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